Thursday, August 13, 2015

Are Nuclear Bombs Real?




Warning: On this one I have not made up my mind. This could be disinfo but I have wondered about some of these issues. It bothers me that one guy that has made a lot of "nuclear weapons are a myth" videos named Eric Dubay teaches David Icke -like New Age thinking at his blog Atlantean Conspiracy.

This is a thinking aloud post. Feel free to disagree or say you believe nuclear bombs are definitely real. Maybe some will think I am crazy to even post this but as I have said, it's an issue my mind is not made up on. It's a complex issue, some even believe that scripture itself in Revelation seem to believe that the "earth being burned by fire" is the result of nuclear bombs. I believe God doesn't need human help in anything but they point to this verse:

 Revelation 8:6And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.
The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;

However that is only conjecture. Obviously Wormwood and more is part of that picture and God's wrath on the earth.

Science is not my strongest suit, though I know more of medicine and biology then I do of physics. There is ample evidence to me that the scientific world is "owned" and they have advanced many things as gospel truth according to the scientific method that are NOT. Some may think I have been reading too much of Clues Forum, but I questioned people ever having gone to the moon and other advances in "science". We know that evolution is a ruse.

Nuclear weapons seem to work all too well in my opinion in keeping the populace afraid and malleable. Ever since the 1950s they have had most Americans shaking in their boots. I remember even the Cold War with Reagan as the puppet at the helm and how we were warned about being on the edge of nuclear devastation. Radiation especially being invisible is an easy scare tactic. With radiation they can tell people to evacuate from something that they can't see, feel or hear.  How much of what is happening at Fukishima is real? Oddly I still know people traveling to Japan and Tokyo which is downwind of the place and they don't seem to care. That really boggles my mind. Supposedly Fukishima is killing the whole Pacific Ocean but a city just 100-150 miles away is just fine?

The people who examine the videos seem to have some real questions about the integrity of nuclear bomb videos realities. One of my newest hobbies is photography, and while I am simply an amateur, if all that heat, light and energy is being poured out how do they get those perfect videos of mushroom clouds? Even with space I have asked how can a rocket operate in a vacuum when there is nothing to push against?

The camera itself would be overwhelmed by the light that is so strong it is supposed to burn out human retinas immediately. Years ago I went to a college lecture where they had someone there who had worked on the invention of nuclear bombs. He either was part of the Manhattan project or knew people who were. He was old enough to have been a young man there. This is one time where I felt spiritual darkness in the room, I kept thinking, "That man is lying." and he gave me the willies. I kept thinking what kind of monsters wanting to invent weapons that could blow up the whole world?

One thing to think about and this is a question I had the other day....is how come Hiroshima isn't still a cesspool of radiation. I remember being told some forms of radiation have a half life of  thousands of years, and here we see modern Hiroshima and no one is dead from lingering radiation? The city functions like normal after being nuked?



From an article on nuclear bombs:

"Probably the most serious threat is cesium-137, a gamma emitter with a half-life of 30 years. It is a major source of radiation in nuclear fallout, and since it parallels potassium chemistry, it is readily taken into the blood of animals and men and may be incorporated into tissue. Other hazards are strontium-90, an electron emitter with a half-life of 28 years, and iodine-131 with a half-life of only 8 days. Strontium-90 follows calcium chemistry, so that it is readily incorporated into the bones and teeth, particularly of young children who have received milk from cows consuming contaminated forage. Iodine-131 is a similar threat to infants and children because of its concentration in the thyroid gland. In addition, there is plutonium-239, frequently used in nuclear explosives. A bone-seeker like strontium-90, it may also become lodged in the lungs, where its intense local radiation can cause cancer or other damage.

Plutonium-239 decays through emission of an alpha particle (helium nucleus) and has a half-life of 24,000 years. To the extent that hydrogen fusion contributes to the explosive force of a weapon, two other radionuclides will be released: tritium (hydrogen-3), an electron emitter with a half-life of 12 years, and carbon-14, an electron emitter with a half-life of 5,730 years. Both are taken up through the food cycle and readily incorporated in organic matter."

Here is an article on cancer in Hiroshima.

They have more liver cancer but less breast cancer.

Where were all the blind Japanese in decades past that should have been blinded by the blast?

So there are many things that do not add up to me.

Have you ever wondered why all the bombs make Mushroom clouds? Why is it a mushroom? Here I even think of the Amanita Muscaria mushroom? Ok maybe my mind is going too out there. But it's always bugged me the things are pictured as giant mushroom clouds.

The Atomic Bomb Hoax



36 comments:

Anonymous said...

Dubay also promotes the "flat earth" theory. As far as did the bombing occur; www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yez_gesztE Go to 12:00. I think the real question is why and for the answer to that one needs to read books that deal with true history like Infamy by John Toland. Most times the truth is sickening and we should remember Philippians 4:8 - Don

Anonymous said...

It is possible that nuclear bombs aren't real. Who knows what is really real? You can't trust the media or science.

What a scare tactic to have, the whole world will be nuked.

And yes, stay away from Eric Dubay. He's a Jew hater, he promotes Hitler (saying that Hitler was "misunderstood), and he denies the holocaust, saying that no Jews died at all. He's an eastern meditation/yoga guy that also has stated the Jesus Christ is totally false. He's a satanist.

It's a shame because Dubay actually touches on topics that are good study topics, like NASA fraud and the shape of the earth and government-created diseases. Just goes to show, government agents (which Dubay probably is) will tell some truth and then mix that truth with horrifying satanism (like promoting Hitler) to discredit the truth. Oldest trick in the shill book.

cdf said...

Thanks, Bible Believer. I haven't made up my mind either but lean toward it being fake. I'm a Cluesforum reader myself although haven't signed up.

Did you know that Eric Dubay is a flat-earther? Ball-earth skepticism seems to be all the rage right now. Pure ridiculousness as far as I'm concerned.

Michael Sean said...

"Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds". It's interesting that the words Oppenheimer chose were from Shiva the Destroyer, who also has a statue at CERN in that very form. I'm not sure what to make of that; secular scientists obsessed with Hindu god.

I try to stay out of these kinds of conspirtorial side shows. I kind of got into the conspiracy/truth movement view a few years back, and quickly came across a bizarre world of new-agers, snake oil salesmen, attension seekers, cointelpro, and the sadly delusional. Strangely enough it lead me to Christ. Once you get through the secret societies, New World Order, Aliens, lizards, bloodlines, Christian conspiracy, time travel, celebrity satanists, blah blah blah, your head spins. Who knows what is true and what isn't in our crazy messed up world? The problem is that many of these things are traps best avoided.

I don't live in fear of nuclear war. I know man does not control the outcome.

Anonymous said...

I myself have no doubt about the existence nuclear weapons. BB you have a question as to the validity of the mushroom cloud that forms over a nuclear explosion. I have fired many types of firearms. Every time the bullet coming out of the end of the barrel and striking a target, it mushroomed in shape. Now there are bullets that are called hollow point; these have at the tip a shallow cup, instead of a sharp point. When these hollow point bullets are fired from a weapon they start mushrooming before striking the target. The reason is they are flat tipped and have that cup causing air resistance to expand them before hitting the intended target.

A nuclear weapon, even a small one, has the ability to be as forceful as many tons of a high grade explosive material (TNT or plastic explosive). When a nuclear explosion occurs there is a tremendous amount of force and heat being generated; this cannot go down because the earth is there so it goes up. This force has to slow because of the air or atmosphere, causing the "mushroom" effect.

About the end time event of the earth being done away with a fervent heat; man is not capable of making a nuclear weapon with that much power. We need to go back to Genesis 1:3 "Then God said,". If God can make the heavens and earth just by speaking, I don't know what a person is thinking that God will not end all this by saying something like it is finished! I have read some of the prophecy sites that claim to be Christian saying that what they read in the Bible sounds like nuclear weapons. That is just preposterous. God is going to judge the world and with His voice I believe He will end it.

Joel

cdf said...

Oh yes, Eric Dubay also calls the God of the Old Testament a psychopath.

Oh, okay then.

cdf said...

Anon, blah, blah, blah. TLDR

William Sculley said...

Mushroom clouds occur because of the fact that the outside of the cloud is experiencing more drag than the center, causing it to move outward and slower than the center. That's not a mystery, that's basic physics. So what? Is every single technology a big consipiracy?

Anonymous said...

I think we all need to realise that every single new discovery of truth, and every new conspiracy... all of it... is being spoon fed to us by those in control. There is no truth movement, no-one is discovering any new truth anywhere, no-one is uncovering any conspiracy. We are all being deceived. And they use the same trick every time, they throw a handful of new shills out there with their "new evidence", much of the evidence often true, and then each new movement starts, and away it explodes. The latest is of course the flat earthers - same deal - a handful of shills starting it all, and pretending to be at war with each other - snore...

9-11, fake moon landings, fake space travel, fake nasa, fake wars, fake school shootings, fake this and that, flat earth, aliens and lizard people, electric universe, cern the gateway for demons, nephalim aliens... every single "conspiracy" we may or may not believe to be true, and that has a movement uncovering it - is all being spoon fed to us by those in control. Who knows what's true anymore? Our entire reality is being debased into absolute confusion.

We are living in a time of total and absolute deception of the entire world, and it's going to continue to get worse.

No comment from me on Nukes, I know the points involved. My only comment is no-one is discovering these things for themselves, a small group of shills has been unleashed upon us to promote this new idea, and that this is just another spoon fed theory given to us to deceive and confuse and to break down every part of our realities. Just like everything else.

It's getting to a point with me that I will soon begin shutting off my computer altogether. The deception going on around us is too strong, and I don't want to be deceived by these Babylonians, when I can see so clearly that all of it is set up.

Joel, I'm with you !! I rarely speak of my own eschatological views, because they are different than what most people believe and which views have all come from the Babylonian churches. And I would rather be united in my love of Jesus Christ with my brothers and sisters than to find even more reason to divide us. I too believe that God Almighty will indeed roar His voice from Heaven, and every creature on earth will fall down and bow before Him instantly, and this will be the end. And I also believe this will only happen when the bloodshed on this earth becomes so intense that without His intervention - His entire creation of man - created in His image - would otherwise annihilate themselves. And no, I do not believe anyone is being "raptured" away, and that if any one group of people did suddenly disappear one day before the last great war to end the world, then this too is a deception.

Remember, every single conspiracy, true or false, is being fed to us, to deceive, break down, confuse, divide, along with every other societal division they are creating - its all part of their ride to bring us into an acceptable frame of mind that their war can begin. Don't be deceived. It doesn't matter which of these conspiracies is true or false. It's about world wide deception.

Bible Believer said...

Dubay is very New Age and an obvious deceiver. I just mentioned him because he is the one with the most numerous videos asking this question. We know deceivers will mix some truth and lies, just like Icke warns people of elite deceptions but then gets started on the Luciferianism and New Age lies. Anon you are right this is the biggest trick in the shill book.

I think it is possible that the nuclear bombs aren't real too. Remember I have not made up my mind here. The anon who wrote we can't trust the media or much of the science is correct. Many of these areas are teamed together for deception. Yes much science is true in the workaday world--our cars work, thyroid pills work, etc but there is much infusion of deception there too.

Thanks CDF

I find myself wondering if the flat earth stuff is a distraction of sorts.

Why are the secular scientists so fascinated with Hinduism Michael Sean? It makes you wonder since they have the SHIVA statue at Cern and now we have had Kali displayed in NYC. That doesn't bode well for them.

I agree one has to be careful with the conspiracy world. A lot of it is disinformation. On this matter most likely we will never know for sure. We know they are lying about a LOT and even most of the conspiracy websites are "owned" and controlled opp.

I think about old conspiracies like Planet X, Nephilim--Raider's News Network and more and it seems to be a freak people out money making deal. I too was into the Christian 'conspiracy' world until I left it and warned about aspects of it here.

http://galatiansfour.blogspot.com/2012/01/more-thinking-about-raiders-news.html

We know that world is definitely shill-filled.

I do obviously believe the NWO is real and believe in what many would call "conspiracy" such as the true story behind 9-11 and the globalist goals warned of in bible prophecy but I know things have been massively muddied and on purpose too for deception. There are a lot of websites, I used to read that I left behind that focus on conspiracies and warned of things that never happened. All the crying wolf stuff is meant to throw people off too.

I agree it's good not to live in fear of nuclear war, God will deal with the outcome even if we know how destructive it could be.
continuing...

Bible Believer said...


Thanks anon in explaining the "mushroom" effect. Perhaps these are huge bombs that do actually make "mushrooms". Even here we could be seeing some truth and some lies. The commenter who wrote that world wide deception is a given is correct.

I agree with you that man is not capable of doing away with the entire earth with a fervent heat. They seem to want to give all the power to man and it's insane.

Not every technology is a conspiracy but there is a lot of lies out there.

I agree anon, we are being deceived all over the place. I believe and now 9-11 was a lie. Even there a person is judging from the information they are privy to. There are so many shills and at multiple layers and meant to steer people. We know they use nuclear fears to steer wars they desire and global war on terrorism. The new crusades in the Middle east have been fueled out of fears of weapons of mass destructions. So considering what is true or not, many lies are mixed in. The powers that be seem to be directing the entire truth movements on every layer. For just average folks, outside of God's truth in His Word, while we may think about these things, knowing what is true now is very difficult. I do believe they will be using the alien garbage for some deception. I agree with you anon, that we are living in a time of total and absolute deception on multiple layers and it is worsening. They do want total confusion and war.

We may never know if they are real or not. We know the lies are a given though out there. I do believe science is just as "owned" as many other areas. We know some things are real that we can view with our own eyes like medicines and other technologies that WORK, but even there we know there are biases and money running the show. I agree too the Rapture is a deception. Matt 24:22 says how bad this world will get.

Anonymous said...

It's been said that people will belive a big lie easier than a little one.

You can see for yourself the earth is round by gaining a little elevation. You can see the curve.
Put your own feet on the ground and go see Hiroshima and Nagasake yourself and ask those who lived through it what happened... or find some eyewitness reports... are there any witnesses reports from that? (yes!)

Just because something like radiation is "invisible" doesn't make it non-real. You say you belive in God whom you can not see, and you say you believe the warnings from the eye-witnesses in the Bible and you fear God. Is that just a hoax or reality? (certain reality)

Your a-bomb "expert" mixes truth and lies, just like the devil always has and does. Folks try to stop listening to people who mix truth and lies. Spend some time seeking answers in your Bible and in Prayer before you wander off into the land of lies where you face doctrines of demons. STOP listening to people who are telling lies and you know they are. Don't mess with these mixers of truth and lies, it's satanic demonic misinformation and deception.

Lenny

kerdasi amaq said...

Proving photos or film clips to be fake; doesn't mean nuclear weapons don't exist.

Anonymous said...

No rapture? Then what does 1 Thessalonians 4:17 and Matthew 24:37-42 mean? The bible says that you cannot know when the Lord will return(Mark 13:32-37). But we do know. He returns right after the 7 year tribulation. So this must be speaking of a rapture. I would say the pre trib rapture. If the rapture were set at any other time, then you would know about it's coming.

I know some believe that the pre trib is a recent belief. But it seems that it is not. This was a belief way before Darby. Look at the writings of Irenaeus in his "Against Heresies 5.29". There is Cyprian and his "Treatises of Cyprian". Ephraim the Syrian. His writings are done by someone called pseudo Ephraim. Altho, they still mention the pre trib rapture and are still written in the distant past.

Now of course, people can argue about all of this. I as a human am certainly quite capable of error, as is anyone. But, I certainly find those writings interesting, and I also see the bible pointing to a rapture, and that rapture being pre trib.

cdf said...

The moon is an orb. The sun is an orb. I will assume that the earth is an orb as well. Oh yes, then there are those flat-earthers who say that the earth is a flat circle with a dome over it. What?

I'm finished with this.

cdf said...

When one comes to understand that their overlords are lying to them, and have been for a very long time, it's a terrible thing. It's a terrible thing.

The only one to cling to is Jesus Christ. Things become clear.

cdf said...

Besides, the only ones that God is looking at are MEN.

Doesn't the Bible say that men are responsible for what happens on the earth?

Keep it in your pants, gentlemen.

cdf said...

Which brings me to the jews. That's what they call themselves anyway.

I'm not anti-semitic, I'm just anti-JEW. The Synagogue of Satan.

Sorry/not sorry. Take a look around.

Anonymous said...

There is nothing new under the sun.

Same old, same old.

Bible Believer said...

Please no anti-Semitic stuff here, I almost did not post your comment. Be careful of those who want you to blame the Jews:

http://galatiansfour.blogspot.com/2013/04/those-who-want-you-to-blame-jews.html

Bible Believer said...

I lean towards the world being an orb, and think the evidence for 'flat earth" is weak, even flight patterns would be altered. One could not fly to Japan from America. Where would the "edge" of the earth be where one falls off?

With Hiroshima and Nagasaki, who knows? It would take more research. Carpet fire bombing and other bombs could create horrible effects.

Sure radiation definitely could be real.

I don't think it's a doctrine of demons to question nuclear bombs. One wants to know the truth either way. Hopefully in one way we won't find out they are real if you know what I mean.

Bible Believer said...

Yes the overlords are lying to us about many things.

Maybe the films the all manufactured but why? When the would be real bombs go off the camera is destroyed? Then they should say so.

William Sculley said...

Re: Anonymous, who said:
"No rapture? Then what does 1 Thessalonians 4:17 and Matthew 24:37-42 mean? The bible says that you cannot know when the Lord will return(Mark 13:32-37). But we do know. He returns right after the 7 year tribulation. So this must be speaking of a rapture. I would say the pre trib rapture. If the rapture were set at any other time, then you would know about it's coming.

I know some believe that the pre trib is a recent belief. But it seems that it is not. This was a belief way before Darby. Look at the writings of Irenaeus in his "Against Heresies 5.29". There is Cyprian and his "Treatises of Cyprian". Ephraim the Syrian. His writings are done by someone called pseudo Ephraim. Altho, they still mention the pre trib rapture and are still written in the distant past.

Now of course, people can argue about all of this. I as a human am certainly quite capable of error, as is anyone. But, I certainly find those writings interesting, and I also see the bible pointing to a rapture, and that rapture being pre trib."



My Response

The Rapture is a mythical event found first in the late 19th century, the result of a teenaged girl who went into surgery. At the time, the standard painkillers used were similar in effect to the street drug known as "shrooms" (a collection of around 90 mushroom species under the genus Psilocybe). These drugs were powerful hallucinogens, and when combined with local paralytics and narcotics, they were effective at inducing a dream-like state in which the patients would see vivid visions. When this girl went in for her surgery, she "saw" the rapture in her hallucination. The Bible has NEVER mentioned the Rapture, for the sole reason that there is no rapture. There is no in depth description. No.

The Scripture says that it is appointed unto men once to die, and then the judgement. There is no second option of avoiding the Tribulation. Do you want to know where the Church will be in the Tribulation? Read Exodus. Tell me where Israel was during the plagues. Were they on the other side of the Red Sea? Or were they in the midst of Egypt, in the epicenter of the plagues, but protected from their immediate effects as they awaited the promised freedom?

You see, my veiled friend, the Church is not made of cowards who are afraid to face the Antichrist. The Church is not a safe haven that promises there will be no harm to your life. The Church is the woman in Revelation. She is the one against whom Satan himself will rail. She will stay and be the 120000 witnesses. There is an importance to that number, for it is not an exact counting. It is a symbol. It stands for all who truly follow Him. It represents a completeness. The number 12 means wholeness and completeness. It stands for the whole. The Twelve Apostles represent all of the Church. And the 120000 represent the whole of the Church, living and dead, who will rise up in the last days and be counted as the Sheep, separated from the goats, not because of some magic words they said. They will be victorious over the Antichrist, that great beast, because of one thing, declared for all to hear in First Corinthians 13:

William Sculley said...


And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

Faith alone cannot save, for it is empty and lacks life. That is why we are not saved by faith, but through faith. Works cannot save. We cannot earn them. Faith is the door through which grace enters our hearts. Works are the key. But not works of the law. Here are the two commandments that make the key to eternal life:

And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live

This love, in the end, will conquer the AntiChrist. And it is our duty as Christians to be that love. Not only will it bring others to Christ. It will save our souls, and bring us to eternal life.

And no Scripture can contradict that. Modern Protestants have messed it up in this respect. Rather than accept the real responsibility given to us by Christ, we seek ways to escape it. Escapism is the heart of all Monergistic Soteriology.

cdf said...

BB, as I say, I'm not anti-semitic, I'm only anti-jew. Look it up. Take a look at what Israel and the US has been doing. What is there to be nice about? Just stop.

Anonymous said...

There is no edge to fall off of, in the flat earth model. A giant ice wall surrounds the earth, which itself is the start of where the firmament meets the ground and goes up to the heavens above. Waters are everywhere as Genesis describes. The outer edge is frozen water, ice. The upper waters are mists and clouds in the firmament. Water everywhere, no edge to fall off. Read Genesis chapter 1, it perfectly fits.

Bible Believer said...

CDf why so snippy. So are you a bigot against Jews or just an anti-Zionist? I would like to know.

http://galatiansfour.blogspot.com/2010/09/i-cant-wait-for-armageddonthe.html

William Sculley said...

No edge to fall off of? There is, then, no way in which a person could go from either LA to Japan or from New York to Britain. Seriously, the Flat Earth Model is only sensible in a lifestyle where sensible means a hookah in the morning and a dose of hallucinogen in the evening, at least in today's world where satellites orbit the earth.

Anonymous said...

Sculley, you never answered my questions.


What does 1 Thessalonians 4:17 and Matthew 24:37-42 mean?

Also Mark 13:32-37 and already knowing that Jesus will return after the 7 year tribulation. How can that be referring to the second coming?

Also, if the rapture were a "mystical event" found by Margaret MacDonald in the 19 century, then what about Irenaeus, Cyprian, and Ephraim? Perhaps they were on shrooms also?

Now, as far as the bible not mentioning the rapture. The word rapture simply comes from the Latin word rapturo and from the Greek harpazo. The word rapture is describing the term "caught up" in 1 Thessalonians 4:17. The bible also doesn't use the word trinity, but we know that it exists.

William Sculley said...

I Thessalonians 4:17 is ignoring something quite simple: Context: This is following the resurrection of the Dead, described at the END of the book of Revelation. This isn't a secret coming, this is the Second Coming of Christ. Verse 14 tells us specifically that the events are AFTER the Second Coming. The same applies to the Matthew section. It's referring to the Judgment, not a Rapture.

Ask yourself, why did nobody from the Early Church believe in the Rapture? Also, if the Rapture is true, then why do you need the book of Revelation?

The Rapture is a myth. It's escapism, pure and simple. It's a belief for people who don't have true faith in God, because they obviously believe that God is incapable of protecting His own people. The reason we believe the Trinity is because that is what the Church has always taught. The Church has NOT always taught the Rapture.

Bible Believer said...

Sure the connecting flights to me from Japan to the USA and beyond proves the flat earth theory is found wanting. There are pilots who have flown across the world and even men who have sailed across the world in a loop so how do they explain that one?

I consider Iraneus and the list of names you put up as false early deceivers anon.

I don't believe in the Pre-trib rapture, let me remind you of that. The rapture is new even for the evangelicals and pops up in the 1850s.

William Sculley said...

The problem is that the saints don't teach flat earth as a dogma. They might have believed it. But they don't have any scientific knowledge.

Anonymous said...

Everyone is traveling around the world by north pole navigation, so going in a circle around a flat earth is no problem. And the flight paths always favor a flat earth. If you do a study of why they stop in Dubai when going from South Africa to Australia, and such flights, you'll see why.

William Sculley said...

Nobody is using north pole navigation. Besides, explain geostationary orbits. DirectTV satellites remain in orbit around the same fixed location. We point the satellite dishes that they receive the signaled five satellites sitting above the earth in the same spot all the time. I know because i work in technical support for them. Flat earth would render satellite tv impossible

Anonymous said...

I posted the comment earlier about being careful of these conspiracies, that they are all given to us to follow. And that by us following them in any way, that we are doing exactly what we are being led to do. It is good to understand these things, but perspective, keeping distance and seeing the bigger picture is always better.

I also mentioned I agreed with an earlier commenter that I believe this world will end with the voice of the spoken word of God - just as in the creation, and that His voice will be as a roar upon this earth as He declares "It Is Finished", and that every creature on this earth will bow before Him.

I also mentioned I don't believe in a rapture, neither before nor after. And that I do not go into eschatology in blog comments, it serves no purpose, it changes no-ones mind, there is not room to properly explain, it is not my blog to try and dominate my views on, and it is also a hot topic area of division amongst the Bride. Eschatology is also one of the key openings for shills to easily create divisions and arguments amongst Christians. That's what they want, they want us separated and arguing against each other, instead of being united in our love of Jesus Christ and in the united hope we all have in our salvation through Him alone.

And exactly as I warned - it happened immediately here. People started causing division.

We also must remember that whatever our views of end times, it has no bearing whatsoever on our salvation.

So, I will not explain or go into things further in respect to my own views on eschatology. If at some time in the future I find that I do want to express my views publicly, I will make my own blog or website, where people can freely come and go as they please, and to agree or to disagree, but will always be welcomed in our united love of Jesus Christ as brothers and sisters, as one.

The devil is all around us, devouring us in greater numbers as each minute passes. Don't help him. Don't separate yourselves from the little flock that remains, especially over things that have no great bearing on anything. The flock is now so tiny, and one by one the devil is separating us all from each other - that he may devour us... Don't help him!

Anonymous said...

With respect to flat earth. I won't argue any position here, again it seems to be the wrong place without the right platform for commenters to express their views thoroughly.

I have researched this, and each of the shills promoting this are all pretending to be at war with each other, most are outright Christ haters and despisers of God and Christians, and some are the worst blasphemers and fornicators ever seen on this earth. Be careful of all of them - they are indeed all shills. They have all been sent out to the world to create a new conspiracy, with a new audience. Exactly like every other conspiracy given to us, whether the conspiracy be true or false, or truth laced with lies and deceptions.

Their information is compelling, the flat earth sits into every facet of the Bible absolutely brilliantly. And because of this, the flat earth theory / conspiracy seems to be aimed directly at Christians to pick up on. While at the same time - the shill leaders of the new movement are all coming across as Christ hating nutters who are borderline insane... but who have great knowledge and insight.

If you are a Christian, be very careful with flat earth theory. If you pick up on it and believe it - then you are doing exactly what they want you to do, and you are no more than a fish on a hook. And if you are a Christian and you start talking about and promoting flat earth theory everywhere - you too are going to look like a nutter. And you know that when they call you a nutter - they will always put the word Christian in front of that word.

Don't help them ridicule the Bride, and don't help them make the Bride out to be insane in the eyes of the world.

That's what they want. Flat earth is aimed directly at Christians.

I am not saying flat earth is either real or false, it is indeed compelling, and when I put it all into so much of Scripture - it all works brilliantly together. But that is the whole point of this new theory... it's for us, it's for Christians... and perhaps for muslims too (another reason to unite).

Flat earth is a baited hook. If you are a Christian - you are the fish.

Don't get on the hook.

Look at the bait, examine it, look at it in context of both Scripture and the secular. It may be true, it may be false. It doesn't matter, whatever you do - don't jump on the hook. If you do then you are just as deceived and being led by the deceits of the devil as anyone else in this world is.

Jesus told us that if it were possible - even the elect will be deceived in these times.

Whatever you do Christians - do not be a public advocate of this belief.

If you do - then you are doing exactly what they want you to do.

Believe what you want with this - it will not affect your salvation.

Just don't get on the hook.

Son't do what they are setting you up to do.

Keep it to yourself.